Santi Drysuits

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Bmwgsboy

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Can someone explain why santi drysuits
Cost almost half the price in Europe than in the US
A e-lite cost 1500 euro in Portugal, and in the us
Cost around 32700$$$us at current exchange rate
That's around a 1400us difference.
 
Bmwgsboy said:
Can someone explain why santi drysuits
Cost almost half the price in Europe than in the US
A e-lite cost 1500 euro in Portugal, and in the us
Cost around 32700$$$us at current exchange rate
That's around a 1400us difference.
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Probably the same reason that stuff from the US costs the same in dollars as it does in Sterling regardless of the exchange rate - profiteering.

You sure it's $32700? Seems a bit rich to me ;)
 
nickb said:
Probably the same reason that stuff from the US costs the same in dollars as it does in Sterling regardless of the exchange rate - profiteering.

You sure it's $32700? Seems a bit rich to me ;)
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Yes it is that's for stock sizes.
 
I guess next time I go to Europe,
I'll pick one up. And I don't have to pay
Tax,I'll just pick up my tax$$ at the airport.
 
It's because the US Importer simply adds on a lump sum as his profit. I avoid and suggest that others avoid products that are imported into the USA under this paradigm. There are alternatives to buying them in the USA, buy something else, or find a friend to buy in Eurpope and ship it. This is what we did for our Santi heated vests.

Bottom line is that there are too many markups in the supply chain: Manufacturer, US Importer, and Local Dealer. Buying in Eurpope cuts out the importer.


Dave

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Dave Sutton said:
It's because the US Importer simply adds on a lump sum as his profit. I avoid and suggest that others avoid products that are imported into the USA under this paradigm. There are alternatives to buying them in the USA, buy something else, or find a friend to buy in Eurpope and ship it. This is what we did for our Santi heated vests.

Bottom line is that there are too many markups in the supply chain: Manufacturer, US Importer, and Local Dealer. Buying in Eurpope cuts out the importer.


Dave

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Here's the problem with your solution - where do you go when something is wrong? Good luck in cutting the distributor out :demon:
 
For a Drysuit? I go to my local drysuit repair place and pay for a repair with the $1500 I saved at the start.

For a vest? I'd box it and send it EMS mail.


There is no "factory support" here in any event. The importer has zero capacity to service them.


Dave

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The cost of dry suits is insane period.

I wish id known what would happen a few years ago. Our dive center at Stony Cove was banging out DUE dry suits for £6-800 and suddenly overnight DUI cut off their dealership and literally doubled the price of their suits

I thought this was madness at the time with it being easy to get a good dry suit for £600 but in a short space of time the others followed and now £1000-1500 is common place.

I baught a SANTI made to measure undersuit back were they were cheep imports. It split in the crotch in one seasion so i havent botherd getting anthing else from them


ATB

Mark
 
Dave Sutton said:
For a Drysuit? I go to my local drysuit repair place and pay for a repair with the $1500 I saved at the start.

For a vest? I'd box it and send it EMS mail.


There is no "factory support" here in any event. The importer has zero capacity to service them.


Dave

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Well if they are not supporting the product then they have no place in the supply chain you are correct
 
Business needs to make a profit to stay in business. No business = no product = not good for anyone.

With that said...

Import Distributors can either be offered a discount by the manufacturer below trade in order that the goods be sold "across the pond" in either direction for a competative price, or as the alternative they are forced to buy at the same trade price that a reseller "same pond side as the maker" pays, then export, then add profit, then sell for trade to LDS, then... well... the numbers all add together to make things uncompetative. That's the case here. Just makes it a non-player for cost.


Dave

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lizardland said:
The cheek of them making profit. Absolute barstewards. Whatever next?

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Haha your right.
Not Againest companies making money.
But in this particular matter, why are the suits
Almost double in price??? If I were to buy the suit I
Wanted,I can buy it in Europe (Portugal) even paying
Iva I still save around 1100$$us. I do believe in
Buying from LDS but this is a little to much for my
Wallet.
 
Dave Sutton said:
Business needs to make a profit to stay in business. No business = no product = not good for anyone.

With that said...

Import Distributors can either be offered a discount by the manufacturer below trade in order that the goods be sold "across the pond" in either direction for a competative price, or as the alternative they are forced to buy at the same trade price that a reseller "same pond side as the maker" pays, then export, then add profit, then sell for trade to LDS, then... well... the numbers all add together to make things uncompetative. That's the case here. Just makes it a non-player for cost.


Dave

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Things are worth what people pay. Someone must be paying or they will be out of business soon.

Sell half a dozen suits with a grand profit equals selling 60 suits with $100 profit. I know what I'd rather do.

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It is not as simple as comparing list prices and subtracting one from the other. Import duties, taxes, shipping, exchange rate fluctuation and currency cost and insurance are a bitch and add a lot to any gear bought across borders.

I sold for DUI for seven years and when they cut out the distributor I had to deal with all the imports myself. Couldn't be bothered as the tax rules were almost impossible to work with as an independent. They added around ***163;500 to the cost of any individual suit and if the currency took a hit between you pricing and paying you paid even more.

Not saying pricing is right on this - I have no idea. But just pointing out that it's not quite as simple as the thread makes out.
 
Clare said:
It is not as simple as comparing list prices and subtracting one from the other. Import duties, taxes, shipping, exchange rate fluctuation and currency cost and insurance are a bitch and add a lot to any gear bought across borders.

I sold for DUI for seven years and when they cut out the distributor I had to deal with all the imports myself. Couldn't be bothered as the tax rules were almost impossible to work with as an independent. They added around ***163;500 to the cost of any individual suit and if the currency took a hit between you pricing and paying you paid even more.

Not saying pricing is right on this - I have no idea. But just pointing out that it's not quite as simple as the thread makes out.
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After doing some more looking around
I have to agree with Clare.
I should have done a better search before I posted
The OP.i have lived in Europe and seemed to forget
How expensive it is to do business in the us, not so much
Import tax but employment,insurance.
Santi does make a great product. With the value of the euro
Dropping, I hope to see the suits cost a bit less.
I do support my LDS and would like to get a suit here
In the us and not deal with asking for favors to get a suit
Here.
 
Diving gear is import duty free from the EU to the USA, so...

Get a $grand discount from your LDS and then let us know ;-)

Or look at other suits. Theres a definite reason why DUI and Bare sell here and other brands sell across the pond (and vice versa, as Clare pointed out)




Dave
 
I guess that I got lucky to get my Santi when I did. I just happened to be at the right place at te right time when a local dealer told me that if I bought the last one he had in stock (he was no longer going to stock them), I could have it for $1000. The only negative thing I can say about it in over 2 years of abuse is that the pocket grommets rusted the very first day. They should have used brass or stainless steel for them.
 
As Dave pointed out, life support equipment (most dive gear) is import duty free here in the US from the EU and Great Britain. A few years ago I ordered a suit from OThree and it was shipped from them to me direct and there was no hassle. Just had to transfer payment to their bank account with a minor (1%) fee above the exchange rate from my bank. The problem lies in the moment a manufacturer has set up an export business to the US, they will most likely not ship to an individual directly and therefore bypassing their US rep.
Gabe
 
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