Buy a rebreather for as little as $90 per month!

Here is the problem guys. Being stupid and unable to dive a rebreather safely has nothing to do with how much cash you have on hand. Personally the most dangerous rebreather diver I know had no problem dropping cash to pay for his rebreather. That in no way makes him dedicated to safe diving or willing to listen to more experienced divers.
On the flip side 2 of the best open circuit divers I know do not have the cash to drop on a rebreather but are very interested in being able to finance one not using a credit card.

If you think keeping it difficult for people to finance a rebreather some how makes it an exclusive club or somehow makes rebreather divers better you are kidding yourself.
 
cferrar said:
2 of the best open circuit divers I know do not have the cash to drop on a rebreather but are very interested in being able to finance one not using a credit card.
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Have they actually done the math on how much it'd cost to finance a 'breather, vs. just saving up the cash first? Why are they in such a hurry to buy something on credit - especially a discretionary item like a 'breather?
 
Actually they are not in as big of a rush as you imply. They just like the option and as they are reaching the point in their diving that they are thinking about tri mix it is the right time to think about rebreathers. As far as how they choose to use credit, I'm not anyone's financial advisor.
 
MatthewA said:
SNIP You are saying YOUR OPINION should dictate the heavy handed control over who and who may not dive rebreathers, so someone else will not exert heavy handed control over YOUR ability to dive into senility.
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Hahahaha Hey Matthew I'm beginning to like you.

That's exactly what I was thinking, but never saying. I would stop em all from diving if I had my way.

But first I would ban underwater archaeology they are the very worst. Next sack the Receiver of Wreck's (its a UK thing some women Alison I ask you )
Reclaim a right of salvage for the Diver and tell the Spanish to go take a hike, and the French, and I could add to that geographical list quite easily.

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you say Americans have no sense of irony?

Why do you think only people with 10K of disposable income at the ready will make better RB divers and conversely, why do people who require financing to enjoy the same end of the sport you enjoy, automatically fall into a category requiring closer scrutiny. I'm sure you've seen plenty of wealthy people whose water activities should be restricted to a shower.

If you do not set yourself up as the arbiter of diving, then the system that was in place when YOU first strapped on a recreational RB remains in force, and everybody gets the same chance to prove themselves that you did.
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That's easy because IMHO it not about the disposable income of a "better RB diver"

To me its all about the aptitude of the person themselves to be a diver in the first place.

Most I would fail on the medical, if that didn't work a good "Mud Run" and for the rest an aptitude test.

To my mind not all "recreational divers" have the necessary aptitude to become "divers" I don't care let them take up golf or something.
Not one of us has anything to prove.

My background is simple. To me it was and always has been, just a job. A job that has paid well granted but one I'm also grateful of God's grace for.

I'm not setting myself up as an arbitrator I am simply acting as my brothers keeper. Using my experience in making a small difference in helping and educating,
If that don't work them I'm just as happy lifting rocks in the "dive pool" and showing folk what crawls out of the dark.

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What I find particularly interesting is you, one of the horseman of the Apocalypse,
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ROFL Dude you have me way above my pay grade if you think I'm one of the "Horseman of the Apocalypse"

Just think of me as just the guy following the "horse" with a dustpan and brush cleaning up its mess. LOL Iain Middlebrook
 
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Hahahaha Hey Matthew I'm beginning to like you.
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I agree with most everything you've written above! Aptitude, Intelligence and good health are defining characteristics we should be looking for. It has nothing to do with the availably of money.

iain/hsm said:
ROFL Dude you have me way above my pay grade if you think I'm one of the "Horseman of the Apocalypse"

Just think of me as just the guy following the "horse" with a dustpan and brush cleaning up its mess. LOL Iain Middlebrook
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Now there's a job guaranteed to keep you busy 24/7.
 
Whether someone should finance an item and whether someone should go underwater cannot be viewed as anything except 2 separate issues.... Surely? What am I missing?


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Hey all,

Not jumping into the ongoing debate about "who" should dive a rebreather, but rather adding my $.02 about financing rigs. I can say that since my company began accepting Visa, MasterCard, Amex, etc. in 2000, we rarely have anyone pay with Check (or Cash, dammit!:wiggle:) which is to say that many, if not most of our customers are using some form of Credit to finance their purchases (unless they're using Debit Cards). So, the idea of a company setting up a independent method for financing an expensive piece of kit is not all that unusual. I can go buy a Jet Ski or Motorcycle and get financing - so why not scuba equipment? You can debate whether or not having a loan which is "unsecured" vs. "secured" makes sense, but the truth is most people use some kind of financing to handle their purchases of this magnitude.

I think it's about time (of course I would :agree:), and just demonstrates how far the CCR business has come since it's beginnings in a bunch of dudes' garages back in the early 90's...

Diver aptitude and capability has never been part of the financial equation - there are plenty of rich people who shouldn't be diving CCR's and plenty of not-so-rich people who would probably make excellent CCR divers. That issue is more for the Instructors and Manufacturers to pay heed to, absent the consideration of how a specific individual actually pays for their gear.

Kevin.
 
Hey, I wonder if there is any chance for a financed scooter?!?!? :-D




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Garth, Dive Addicts offers financing on scooters as well as rebreathers. Of course we offer financing options that are free from spousal consent! :) Let us know if we can help you out!

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Hey, I wonder if there is any chance for a financed scooter?!?!? :-D




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Randy Thornton said:
Garth, Dive Addicts offers financing on scooters as well as rebreathers. Of course we offer financing options that free from spousal consent! :) Let us know if we can help you out!
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Wow, this will help a lot. I will work on the spousal consent and get back to you.

:-D

Garth


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I think as long as you can afford to feed a rebreather, i.e. cells when they're needed or due, proper maintenance according to the manufacturer's schedule and be able to support diving it without doing stupid stuff to save $5 like extending scrubber, etc. It really won't matter if you pay Visa $90 a month or a secured note.

However, if you can't afford to feed a rebreather when and how it needs to be fed, you'll probably ace yourself by being cheap.

The prospective purchaser should remember that if they get caught in an accident having outdated stuff a 500 post thread will memorialize their mistakes.
 
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