CMF provides a solid mass at any depth ?

anarchista said:
My solution works.
You do not have adequate capacity. Nov We do not produce complete CCR and SCR advanced.
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I want to say a lot worse than this so read it clearly.

John is a valued member of this community.
Their solutions are real world and seen to work in the real world.
I hope you go broke paying for lawyers, they are the only ones that will make money from your efforts.
 
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what the **** is all this shit, i really do not have time to deal with bullshit, put up or shut up:smackbum:
if you have a patten thats good for you, why are you even talking about it?
if you don't have a patent why are you even talking about it?
if something some else is making that has nothing to do with you and you feel it infringing on a patent then tell us,
if you have a patent is it world wide? or just your own country?
if your just fishing to steal information so you can rip off others then piss off.
i have zero time for wasters and scammers.

john
 
narked at 90 said:
i have zero time for wasters and scammers.
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Do not panic.

My solution is based on a different philosophy dosing systems Constant Mass Ratio of oxygen (P-377789).
This makes it easy. There is no limit working depth, Interspiro tested this type of dosage respiratory mixtures, up to 450m in the chamber (DCSC).
The basis of the conversation at the Aqua Lung Military, it was clear approach to the problem, we are talking only about patented solutions.

Talking about the advantage of not notified without signing NDA, is pure stupidity designer.

rc greet
 
Gents:

I am going to close this thread unless some subject is articulated *very soon* that is comprehensible to the readers.

Start by writing something that *I* can understand. I'm a smart guy.. write something that is not gibberish.

Is there a question or a statement being made here? One or the other is a requirement for further discussions. Failing a clear statement, or a clear question, with a clear objective, it's at it's end.

Failure to sense the pulse of the ethos here and to participate with clarity as a member of our society will result in a hammering... :crash:


Am I making myself clear?


Carry on,


Dave


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anarchista said:
Do not panic.

My solution is based on a different philosophy dosing systems Constant Mass Ratio of oxygen (P-377789).
This makes it easy. There is no limit working depth, Interspiro tested this type of dosage respiratory mixtures, up to 450m in the chamber (DCSC).
The basis of the conversation at the Aqua Lung Military, it was clear approach to the problem, we are talking only about patented solutions.

Talking about the advantage of not notified without signing NDA, is pure stupidity designer.
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Anachista- (to get back on topic) "People" on here (Mostly Amercian and UK) cannot read what you are writing- its not that we don't understand but your sentance structure and word choice is Very confusing, you're also skipping words in places where we'd put them that might better explain what you are saying.

I think some of the "panic" would disappear if we knew what you meant! :-)

FWIW- These bits in bold make no sense in UK English- can you elaborate? (I've guessed in brackets)

My solution is based on a different philosophy (of?) dosing systems (based on?) Constant Mass Ratio of oxygen (P-377789).
This makes it easy. There is no limit working depth, Interspiro tested this type of dosage respiratory mixtures (breathing mixture make up system?), up to 450m in the chamber (DCSC).
The basis of the conversation at the Aqua Lung Military, it was clear approach to the problem, (You spoke to Aqua lung and they said it was a good idea?) we are talking only about patented solutions. (You are ONly talking about patent sitting, not making a divable system?)

Talking about the advantage of not notified without signing NDA, is pure stupidity designer. (Explaining the advantage without an NDA would be giving away your secret?)


So our confusion remains- we're interested but confused- What are you asking (in this thread) other than to tell us you have a patent and we can't know about it?!


No offence intended in any way (don't get carried away Dave :-) but clearly you have something of interest but its unclear what and why.
 
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I'm somewhat surprised by the sudden nose-dive of the tone in this thread.

Frankly I do not see the need to be rude on a forum and be assured you do come across offensive when you do it.

Unless participation is only allowed by people with decent English then I suggest we cut some slack to our Polish friend who admits to be rubbish at English but is clearly quite clued-up on rebreather topics and is someone we could benefit from.

Ben - I read rc's post the same way as you, so perhaps google-translate is better than we thought after-all :-)

Matt.
 
Dave Sutton said:
I am going to close this thread unless some subject is articulated *very soon* that is comprehensible to the readers.

Start by writing something that *I* can understand. I'm a smart guy.. write something that is not gibberish.
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Just before you close the shop - and to be clear - you are saying that you may not participate if you have crap English - yes?

Matt.
 
matthewoutram said:
Ben - I read rc's post the same way as you, so perhaps google-translate is better than we thought after-all :-)
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The barrier is in a completely different place.
I know the 3 basic families SCR, well ventilated models.
To their solutions had to create another development model SCR SMS ventilation. Except that come up with that it took a few seconds to write 5 minutes.

I can only apologize for writing from my perspective, you can simply ask, what is the CMR.

I wrote in which the family moves SCR. I know that it is not widely known SCR 3 family.
1 CMF (Constant Mass Flow) we have a small hole through which the filtered solid mass medium such fresh breath. Such a system is extremely simple. Known structures in this class is a Draeger FGG, Dolphin, Amphora.
2 CVR (Constant Volume Ratio) system which is a permanent part of the volume is changed circulation. Examples are DC 55, OXY MIX Crabe, RB 80 and clones.
3 CMR (Constant Mass Ratio) very poorly known in the world recreation of family semi-closed circuit. It is based on the following property in constant ventilation counted consume solid mass of oxygen (the basis of physiology to the efforts of medium and large for most people).
How does it accomplish?
The AGA is currently Interspiro this direction design is developed for decades. In the first embodiments, the mechanical counting was used bellows respiratory movements. After counting to a specific dose level was released regenerating fixed-size mass.
How to realize such a dose?
Feed the little bottle stable hypertension in relation to the environment. in the bottle is stored in hypertensive agent dp breathing cylinder has a fixed volume V.
The product of dp * V is constant for at any depth. Simple.
Implementation of the most unfortunately more complicated mechanically.
http://rebreathers.pl/forum/download.php?id=83
http://rebreathers.pl/forum/download.php?id=82
(Next big step DCSC)

I deal with further expansions to constant ppO2 SCR, necessarily counting ventilation is used.

rc greet
 
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anarchista said:
I wrote in which the family moves SCR. I know that it is not widely known SCR 3 family.
1 CMF (Constant Mass Flow) we have a small hole through which the filtered solid mass medium such fresh breath. Such a system is extremely simple. Known structures in this class is a Draeger FGG, Dolphin, Amphora.
2 CVR (Constant Volume Ratio) system which is a permanent part of the volume is changed circulation. Examples are DC 55, OXY MIX Crabe, RB 80 and clones.
3 CMR (Constant Mass Ratio) very poorly known in the world recreation of family semi-closed circuit. It is based on the following property in constant ventilation counted consume solid mass of oxygen (the basis of physiology to the efforts of medium and large for most people).
How does it accomplish?
The AGA is currently Interspiro this direction design is developed for decades. In the first embodiments, the mechanical counting was used bellows respiratory movements. After counting to a specific dose level was released regenerating fixed-size mass.
How to realize such a dose?
Feed the little bottle stable hypertension in relation to the environment. in the bottle is stored in hypertensive agent dp breathing cylinder has a fixed volume V.
The product of dp * V is constant for at any depth. Simple.
Implementation of the most unfortunately more complicated mechanically.
http://rebreathers.pl/forum/download.php?id=83
http://rebreathers.pl/forum/download.php?id=82
(Next big step DCSC)

I deal with further expansions to constant ppO2 SCR, necessarily counting ventilation is used.

rc greet
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I am very sorry, but I still can not understand all of your writing. Can you geave someone to translate your writing? It would help a lot. Or post a seccond version in your language.

Can you please?
 
Ok, I think I understand you, two questions-

anarchista said:
The barrier is in a completely different place.
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Where is it then?

anarchista said:
I deal with further expansions to constant ppO2 SCR, necessarily counting ventilation is used.
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Why?

Metabolic linked gas injection on SCR is surely an evolutionary dead end with ECCR and MCCR on the table? Its easy to see how it could be done but not why...
 
3 CMR (Constant Mass Ratio) very poorly known in the world recreation of family semi-closed circuit. It is based on the following property in constant ventilation counted consume solid mass of oxygen (the basis of physiology to the efforts of medium and large for most people).
How does it accomplish?
The AGA is currently Interspiro this direction design is developed for decades. In the first embodiments, the mechanical counting was used bellows respiratory movements. After counting to a specific dose level was released regenerating fixed-size mass.



This is a variation of the old VSC (diluent only) bailout technique, which is a breath-counting method. The rate of breaths varies naturally with workload, but the 02 metabolized per breath stays fairly constant.

It seems that the system mooted uses a system to count breaths and then dumps an accumulator into the loop as make-up gas once that breath count number is reached.

Not unique, nor particularly adaptable to sport diving use, but nevertheless... interesting. The question, naturally, is "why bother?".



I'm also thinking that both the original Polish as well as the translated English ought to be posted, so that others can attempt to read the intent using their own language skills and translation tools.



Dave

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Dave Sutton said:
This is a variation of the old VSC (diluent only) bailout technique, which is a breath-counting method. The rate of breaths varies naturally with workload, but the 02 metabolized per breath stays fairly constant.
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ACSC is a mechanical counting, counting pneumatic ventilation and depth of a single breath is DCSC and IS-MIX

Dave Sutton said:
It seems that the system mooted uses a system to count breaths and then dumps an accumulator into the loop as make-up gas once that breath count number is reached.
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So that's it.

Dave Sutton said:
Not unique, nor particularly adaptable to sport diving use, but nevertheless... interesting. The question, naturally, is "why bother?".
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CMR system oxygen dosage, no depth limitations and is easy: one bottle dosing and solenoid valve (or valve for mCCR) 2/3. You can also use two simple solenoid valve. Feed the diving is from a typical 1 degree reducer.

Dave Sutton said:
I'm also thinking that both the original Polish as well as the translated English ought to be posted, so that others can attempt to read the intent using their own language skills and translation tools.
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Mechaniczne zliczanie ma ACSC, pneumatyczne zliczanie wentylacji i g***322;***281;boko***347;ci pojedynczego wdechu ma DCSC i IS-MIX


Tak o to chodzi.


Uk***322;ad dawkowania CMR tlen, nie ma ograniczenia g***322;***281;boko***347;ci i jest prosty:
jedna butla dawkuj***261;ca i elektrozawór (lub zawór dla mCCR) 2/3. Mozna równie***380; zastosowa***263; 2 zwyk***322;e elektrozawory. Zasilamy to ze zwyczajnego nurkowego 1 stopnia reduktora.

pozdrawiam rc

rc greet
 
anarchista said:
Mechaniczne zliczanie ma ACSC, pneumatyczne zliczanie wentylacji i g***322;***281;boko***347;ci pojedynczego wdechu ma DCSC i IS-MIX


Tak o to chodzi.


Uk***322;ad dawkowania CMR tlen, nie ma ograniczenia g***322;***281;boko***347;ci i jest prosty:
jedna butla dawkuj***261;ca i elektrozawór (lub zawór dla mCCR) 2/3. Mozna równie***380; zastosowa***263; 2 zwyk***322;e elektrozawory. Zasilamy to ze zwyczajnego nurkowego 1 stopnia reduktora.

pozdrawiam rc

rc greet
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Excelent, can yow change the strange letters to true ones? otherways wil try to decode myself.
 
Dave Sutton said:
I'm also thinking that both the original Polish as well as the translated English ought to be posted, so that others can attempt to read the intent using their own language skills and translation tools.
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Forum does not support non-ascii characters, so good luck with ****31;

Matt.
 
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