When Things go Kaboom!

Randy Thornton

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“DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO!”

In keeping with my philosophy, that all divers (including manufacturers and instructor trainers) should be willing to admit when they screwed up, I share the following event which happened to me today while teaching a CCR Cave course at Peacock Springs. My hope is that my lack of maintenance on my personal CCR unit can somehow be a motivation to others to not follow suit! 

As is my usual practice, I had prepped my unit the night before, including scrubber fill, cylinder top offs, battery charging, leak tests, flapper valve tests, checked my calibration, etc. etc. Everything looked 100% good to go. Upon arriving at the dive site this morning, I placed my CCR on the tailgate of my truck and proceeded to go through go through my secondary checklist prior to dressing for the dive. (Checking my O2 cells, checking O2 and dil pressures, pulling a negative and a positive, etc.) As part of my secondary checklist, I turned on my O2 gas. I could hear what sounded like a small leak escaping from somewhere in the vicinity of the O2 first stage. I put my fingers down there to see if I could feel precisely where the leak was coming from. I could feel it, but couldn’t identify the exact location. At that point, I decided that I needed to remove the reg from the tank valve so I could inspect it more closely. In order to do so, I needed to depressurize the lines, so I pushed the O2 manual add valve to relieve the pressure. That’s when it happened! Kaboom!

The noise was incredible and at first I wasn’t sure if all of my body parts were still intact. After I got my wits about me, I sprinted away from my unit in fear that perhaps the tank was going to blow or even worse, perhaps my truck might go up in flames! After a quick inventory of my body parts, I seemed to be no worse for the wear, other than a burned finger that is now black in imbedded Delrin in my skin! 

Upon closer examination of my unit, I discovered that the O2 MAV had exploded, button missing, and melted inside and partially outside. The hoses on that side of my unit were melted including braided hoses, which surprised me greatly. Pieces of metal hose fittings were exploded and missing. My entire unit was covered in soot. It basically look like someone tossed it in a campfire momentarily! O2 spg was burned up, the T-piece was destroyed, etc. etc.

After several mins. of dealing with the shock of an explosion in my proximity, I started to investigate what had happened. One of the first things I noticed is that my O2 first stage did not have an opv attached. I’m guessing that sometime during the past year, I had removed it and plugged it at a dive site, because it had started leaking. I honestly don’t remember when this would have happened, but a quick inventory of 5 other CCR instructors that were in the near vicinity when it happened, proved that all 5 of the other guys also did not have an opv currently attached to their O2 first stage, for exactly the same reason. Go figure!

Also, when checking my positive pressure on my unit, I had filled my counterlungs with O2. In hindsight, this was really dumb, as it undoubtedly contributed to the volume of O2 in my loop which most certainly was above ambient pressure due the suspected IP creep on my first stage.
Speaking of IP creep, the brand of first stage on my unit has had a history of faulty seats over the past year, and we have seen numerous regs fail with IP creep. Of course, this should not be catastrophic provided that there is an OPV on the line somewhere.

And lastly, and perhaps most importantly and quite honestly more embarrassingly, I had not serviced my MAV in 2 or 3 years. The SubGravity owners manual states specifically that the MAVs should be cleaned and serviced at a minimum of once per year or more often as needed. Apparently, I don’t listen very well! 

Fortunately, the only serious injury was to my unit and to my pride! It’s always fun to have an explosion in the near vicinity of half of the cave diving world and have them come running to see if you are still alive! I have a finger which is burned and is stained from black Delrin in my skin, but other than the ringing in my ears, I’m good to go! Fortunately, as per my predive protocols, I was not wearing my unit at the time I turned it on! I am grateful that it was not more serious as it easily could have been!

So in keeping with my personal philosophy, of sharing my screw ups so that other might learn from them, please be diligent about the following points:

1. SERVICE AND MAINTAIN YOUR EQUIPMENT ON A REGULAR BASIS ACCORDING TO THE MANUFACTURERS RECOMMENDATIONS!
2. REPLACE ALL BROKEN OR MISSING PARTS IMMEDIATELY, WITHOUT FAIL!
3. DON’T OVER INFLATE YOUR COUNTERLUNGS WITH O2!
4. TURN ON YOUR GAS BEFORE DONNING YOUR CCR!
5. TREAT O2 WITH EXTREME CAUTION! IT CAN AND WILL CREATE QUITE A MESS!

Please feel free to chastise me, although I guarantee that you can not possibly do so more stringently than I have already done to myself!
 
“DO AS I SAY, NOT AS I DO!”

In keeping with my philosophy, that all divers (including manufacturers and instructor trainers) should be willing to admit when they screwed up, I share the following event which happened to me today while teaching a CCR Cave course at Peacock Springs. My hope is that my lack of maintenance on my personal CCR unit can somehow be a motivation to others to not follow suit! 

As is my usual practice, I had prepped my unit the night before, including scrubber fill, cylinder top offs, battery charging, leak tests, flapper valve tests, checked my calibration, etc. etc. Everything looked 100% good to go. Upon arriving at the dive site this morning, I placed my CCR on the tailgate of my truck and proceeded to go through go through my secondary checklist prior to dressing for the dive. (Checking my O2 cells, checking O2 and dil pressures, pulling a negative and a positive, etc.) As part of my secondary checklist, I turned on my O2 gas. I could hear what sounded like a small leak escaping from somewhere in the vicinity of the O2 first stage. I put my fingers down there to see if I could feel precisely where the leak was coming from. I could feel it, but couldn’t identify the exact location. At that point, I decided that I needed to remove the reg from the tank valve so I could inspect it more closely. In order to do so, I needed to depressurize the lines, so I pushed the O2 manual add valve to relieve the pressure. That’s when it happened! Kaboom!

The noise was incredible and at first I wasn’t sure if all of my body parts were still intact. After I got my wits about me, I sprinted away from my unit in fear that perhaps the tank was going to blow or even worse, perhaps my truck might go up in flames! After a quick inventory of my body parts, I seemed to be no worse for the wear, other than a burned finger that is now black in imbedded Delrin in my skin! 

Upon closer examination of my unit, I discovered that the O2 MAV had exploded, button missing, and melted inside and partially outside. The hoses on that side of my unit were melted including braided hoses, which surprised me greatly. Pieces of metal hose fittings were exploded and missing. My entire unit was covered in soot. It basically look like someone tossed it in a campfire momentarily! O2 spg was burned up, the T-piece was destroyed, etc. etc.

After several mins. of dealing with the shock of an explosion in my proximity, I started to investigate what had happened. One of the first things I noticed is that my O2 first stage did not have an opv attached. I’m guessing that sometime during the past year, I had removed it and plugged it at a dive site, because it had started leaking. I honestly don’t remember when this would have happened, but a quick inventory of 5 other CCR instructors that were in the near vicinity when it happened, proved that all 5 of the other guys also did not have an opv currently attached to their O2 first stage, for exactly the same reason. Go figure!

Also, when checking my positive pressure on my unit, I had filled my counterlungs with O2. In hindsight, this was really dumb, as it undoubtedly contributed to the volume of O2 in my loop which most certainly was above ambient pressure due the suspected IP creep on my first stage.
Speaking of IP creep, the brand of first stage on my unit has had a history of faulty seats over the past year, and we have seen numerous regs fail with IP creep. Of course, this should not be catastrophic provided that there is an OPV on the line somewhere.

And lastly, and perhaps most importantly and quite honestly more embarrassingly, I had not serviced my MAV in 2 or 3 years. The SubGravity owners manual states specifically that the MAVs should be cleaned and serviced at a minimum of once per year or more often as needed. Apparently, I don’t listen very well! 

Fortunately, the only serious injury was to my unit and to my pride! It’s always fun to have an explosion in the near vicinity of half of the cave diving world and have them come running to see if you are still alive! I have a finger which is burned and is stained from black Delrin in my skin, but other than the ringing in my ears, I’m good to go! Fortunately, as per my predive protocols, I was not wearing my unit at the time I turned it on! I am grateful that it was not more serious as it easily could have been!

So in keeping with my personal philosophy, of sharing my screw ups so that other might learn from them, please be diligent about the following points:

1. SERVICE AND MAINTAIN YOUR EQUIPMENT ON A REGULAR BASIS ACCORDING TO THE MANUFACTURERS RECOMMENDATIONS!
2. REPLACE ALL BROKEN OR MISSING PARTS IMMEDIATELY, WITHOUT FAIL!
3. DON’T OVER INFLATE YOUR COUNTERLUNGS WITH O2!
4. TURN ON YOUR GAS BEFORE DONNING YOUR CCR!
5. TREAT O2 WITH EXTREME CAUTION! IT CAN AND WILL CREATE QUITE A MESS!

Please feel free to chastise me, although I guarantee that you can not possibly do so more stringently than I have already done to myself!
Holy crap randy! , you are lucky you are not badly injured. I know what ill be taking apart on monday. Are you going to switch to another mav than delrin or would that be potential for worse damage ? What o2 1st stage was on your rig?
 
Been using Scubapro Mk17 1st stages (not the EVO) for the last 4 years on my RBs without a problem. Unfortunately I had problems with Apeks DS4s before and that's why I replaced all of them with Scubapro MK17s. Also only use the Poseidon OPVs since they are a lot smaller and more reliable than the AP Valves OPVs.

Now with this posting I have upset 2 companies doing lots of business in the RB market, will have upset several hundred RB divers using their products and just might have prevented someone else from burning up their rig - but I didn't make ANY friends.

Michael
 
Holy crap randy! , you are lucky you are not badly injured. I know what ill be taking apart on monday. Are you going to switch to another mav than delrin or would that be potential for worse damage ? What o2 1st stage was on your rig?

Hi Mark, no plans to switch from a Delrin MAV. I believe the problem was mainly due to the fact that the O2 reg had a seat failure and I had unfortunately removed the opv at an earlier date and just neglected to replace it. The fact that the MAV had not been serviced in quite a while did not help matters. I suspect that the MAV would have exploded whether or not it was Delrin or metal.

I was using APEX DS4s, but it could have happened with any reg. The bottom line is keep your equipment serviced, equipped as suggested by the manufacturer and follow the correct procedures and all should be good!
 
Hi Mark, no plans to switch from a Delrin MAV. I believe the problem was mainly due to the fact that the O2 reg had a seat failure and I had unfortunately removed the opv at an earlier date and just neglected to replace it. The fact that the MAV had not been serviced in quite a while did not help matters. I suspect that the MAV would have exploded whether or not it was Delrin or metal.

I was using APEX DS4s, but it could have happened with any reg. The bottom line is keep your equipment serviced, equipped as suggested by the manufacturer and follow the correct procedures and all should be good!

Great summation Randy, from your detailed write up would it be fair to say that following the failure of the seat in the 1st stage, the absence of an OPV on the O2 reg led to the critical reaction? The regulator manufacturer and the use of delrin in the construction of the MAV may not have played any role at all.

Thanks again for sharing


Cathal
 
Great summation Randy, from your detailed write up would it be fair to say that following the failure of the seat in the 1st stage, the absence of an OPV on the O2 reg led to the critical reaction? The regulator manufacturer and the use of delrin in the construction of the MAV may not have played any role at all.

Thanks again for sharing


Cathal

Yes, I think it is fair to say that the fault was the failure of the hp seat and most importantly, the failure of me to replace the missing OPV. These particular Delrin MAVs have literally 10s of thousands of man hour testing and use, and have shown to be extremely robust and safe. Had the reg not failed, or if there had been an OPV in place, it is highly unlikely that the system would have ignited.
 
Hi Mark, no plans to switch from a Delrin MAV. I believe the problem was mainly due to the fact that the O2 reg had a seat failure and I had unfortunately removed the opv at an earlier date and just neglected to replace it. The fact that the MAV had not been serviced in quite a while did not help matters. I suspect that the MAV would have exploded whether or not it was Delrin or metal.

I was using APEX DS4s, but it could have happened with any reg. The bottom line is keep your equipment serviced, equipped as suggested by the manufacturer and follow the correct procedures and all should be good!
Yes randy a creeping ip no opv and a loop of o2 were the reason for boom,I was trying to reason if softer material such as delrin would have been less potential damage than a steel mav that may have been shrapnel .
 
Yes randy a creeping ip no opv and a loop of o2 were the reason for boom,I was trying to reason if softer material such as delrin would have been less potential damage than a steel mav that may have been shrapnel .

Hard to know exactly Mark, but I suspect that you are correct.
 
Thanks for shearing.

Have you more data of Apeks HP seat failures? Any reaction from the manufacturer? Have they changed the seat material?

I have polished with diamond paste some cones in the frames where the seat sits as the IP creeps even after seat replacement. Those have been a bit older units. This has happened more often than earlier.

Jukka
 
Compression ignition? I have a different idea. Friction ignition, when the threads ripped out due to the excessive pressure. Mechanical failure, friction generated the heat, oxygen and fuel gets a fire.
 
Thanks for shearing.

Have you more data of Apeks HP seat failures? Any reaction from the manufacturer? Have they changed the seat material?

I have polished with diamond paste some cones in the frames where the seat sits as the IP creeps even after seat replacement. Those have been a bit older units. This has happened more often than earlier.

Jukka

Jukka, I don't know if they have changed the seat material. I know that the parts have a different part number now, so I suspect that something must have changed.
 
Jukka, I don't know if they have changed the seat material. I know that the parts have a different part number now, so I suspect that something must have changed.
Jukka this is another reason i use posiedon regs.they us a floating synthetic spherical ball that virtually eliminates traditional seat wear problems.
 
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