Solid State Cells announced by Poseidon at TekDive ??

JONT

JONT

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Whats the story?

Are ethereal? and are they available?

connectors, unit compatibility? cost?

Many of us was to know........if they are real this is a huge set forward making scrubber duration the new (and old) limiting factor ...........

Do tell.

Thanks,

JonT
 
I spoke with Poseidon and they said this t peice with proprietary monitor can be placed on just about any rebreather. I didn't get cost but it isn't something you can simply drop in the place of another cell. Right now it has to be in addition to the others. It isn't even factored into the cell validation of the Poseidon really. It's simply more information. This would make a third cell in the Poseidon since it only has two cells by design.

I think others would be better able to describe but figured I would try,

Garth


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It sounds like you buy the M28 plus the sensor to validate your 3 galvanic cells, sounds like an expensive bit of kit.
 
Jon, basically you splice your inhale loop hose with their T-piece and you get the third sensor with analog and digital output. I am unsure if the m28 is required to process the digital signal and send it back out as analog or if that is in the CPOD. I'll be discussing more with James and will also be trying to get one or two of the with the M28's down to cave country for us to play with. If the CPOD is integrated and can output analog on it's own *that's how they power the HUD*, then it would be great to output to a Petrel or whatever else without requiring the M28. The way the product brief reads is that the CPOD does the cell reading and it outputs to both the analog output for their HUD *easily adaptable to standard fischer pinouts if it isn't already*, and then digital for the CANBus

That said, the M28 is quite slick and I would have no problem replacing my Petrel with one. I will also be discussing extensively with him the communities need to have these cells be licensed to other manufacturers for the safety of the CCR diving community and it is something I hope the Swede's would be willing to do. The combination of the M28 computer replacing the standard paddle on the MK7 as well as the third cell holder is something that could very well make the MK7 a legit technical backmount unit though, just doesn't help us with sidemount cave.

It is on CAN bus though which means they could integrate this into the Dive CAN with almost no issue at all. Could literally be as simple as swapping out the O2 boards with one designed around these sensors since they have to be powered instead of generating their own power.
 
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It might be a bit of work on a CAN rebreather, wont they have a analog to digital converter between the cell and the computer? Assuming this will have to be replaced/by passed and is the digital output compatible with DIVECAN?
 
you can't have solid state plug and play cells. Solid state cells need to be driven by a power source vs. analog cells that generate their own voltage. More importantly you would have to have all of the analog to digital conversion done inside of the cell with all of the processing done in there to convert the signal to the appropriate mV level for the analog computers to read.

For DiveCAN, you would have to replace the O2 module and reflash the firmware which is much easier to do than on analog and keep it in the same form factor. It would be not be possible to say swap the O2 cells on a sidekick with these cells without something between the cells and the monitor. There is no room in there for a power source to drive them, and if the plug and play cells were what you've been hearing about, they would have to be removed on a fairly frequent basis to recharge them individually. Not great idea.

What they did is create a different O2 board module in the CPOD that talks with the canbus, and that technology can easily be adapted to an AP Inspiration, any of the Shearwater DiveCAN rebreathers, or the Meg15/Pathfinder Apecs system
 
kwinter said:
Tom - Was any of that English?
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Erm... (not sure if serious?) All of it...



FYI- Your CCR cert cars you can shred yourself or send back to your agency with an apology... but your man-card should be surrendered to your significant other when he/she chops your balls off :-)
 
Ben Field said:
Erm... (not sure if serious?) All of it...



FYI- Your CCR cert cars you can shred yourself or send back to your agency with an apology... but your man-card should be surrendered to your significant other when he/she chops your balls off :-)
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Sorry to disagree, Ben. When I reflash my firmware with my significant other, it is done in private.
 
Note that there was a session delivered by the former head of Seabear that is now part of ScubaPro on this overall topic. Shared some of the testing and research that ScubaPro has been doing in the area and wrapped up with congratulating Poseidon for getting a product to market. Nice to see the positive comments. I chatted with some of the typical suspects that are very good with doing things with Delrin and they are interested in making some adapters for other units in the market at the appropriate time.
 
diverklondike said:
Note that there was a session delivered by the former head of Seabear that is now part of ScubaPro on this overall topic. Shared some of the testing and research that ScubaPro has been doing in the area and wrapped up with congratulating Poseidon for getting a product to market. Nice to see the positive comments. I chatted with some of the typical suspects that are very good with doing things with Delrin and they are interested in making some adapters for other units in the market at the appropriate time.
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Correct but do we know if Seabear's future product is similar to the Poseidon? I'm still being told that a cleaner solution is "in the works"?
 
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