Prism 2 in use!

I got my Hollis Prism2 the 2nd week in September when I did my class with Matthew Addison. I have been diving it ever since including wreck dives off the NJ coast. The unit over this time has worked flawlessly! Incredible work of breathing! Hollis has done a great job with the injection molding, comes with Shearwater computer, great option for an over the shoulder counter lung Rebreather.
 
Are you going to mention that you sell them?

Full disclosures here please. Glad to see you here, but let's make sure that everyone knows what the skinny is.


Best,

Dave

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As for the way I've read the OP's post, he's only giving his personal experience with the unit. I'm glad he posted his experience with the unit and don't care if he sells them or not. Wayne's a great instructor,terrific diver and just an all around good guy and I'm sure he had no devious plan to sell the Prism2 in his post.

Franco
 
It's just my observation that owners of well known large dive centers sometimes parachute into forums to create buzz over products without informing the reason for wanting to create buzz. Wayne's a good guy, just think first posts ought to be an introduction, not a plug for a product without disclosure. His store has been a major KISS dealer and is now a major rEvo facility. Disingenuous to pop on breathless about a new rig without disclosure.

The Hollis is going to be sold by 2000 Dive Centers. I expect 2000 introductions before 2000 " I just got my new rebreather" posts.

And 2000 sponsors if this becomes a place where merchants hawk their wares. I sponsor, join me!

Best,

Dave

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Well, I sure didn't read Wayne's post in the same manner that you did. I don't think the poster in #4 did either as he's requesting more detailed information on Wayne's report. I wasn't even aware that DiveSeekers was selling them, until your post and I'm doubting anyone else was aware either. Can't it just be a post on a guy taking a class on the Prism2 with Matt? I prefer to read it that way and not be paranoid.

Good Luck Dave :kiss:

Franco
 
I got my Hollis Prism2 the 2nd week in September when I did my class with Matthew Addison. I have been diving it ever since including wreck dives off the NJ coast. The unit over this time has worked flawlessly! Incredible work of breathing! Hollis has done a great job with the injection molding, comes with Shearwater computer, great option for an over the shoulder counter lung Rebreather.

It was great hanging with you and the other guys. I know I had a great time! I'm glad to hear you are happy with the P2 and that it all works! Also, thanks for loaning me the Santi Drysuit (which you also sell) when I auto-destructed my drysuit. It's a great fitting drysuit of phenomenal quality and fit at an amazing price!:thumbsup:
 
to me, the original post does read a bit like a sales brochure...

If the OP wants to add value, can I suggest some more details about the unit, and maybe some pics

please accept this as constructive criticism :)
 
Thing is our members aren't stupid so don't treat them as such. If you sell stuff or are a diving professional say so. It's not a problem there are 100s like that here. Many come on to be helpful or join in the community.

If you want to use the board commercially that's fine too but as Dave said we struggle to pay our bills so help out if you are going to do that.

Anyway, taking the post at face value, welcome. Would be good to see photos of a unit and a detailed tear down.
 
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Wayne

I think it might be useful if you outlined what other rebreathers you have personally owned and dove for a significant amount of time. Then it might be easier to qualify your point of view.

For example you say it has "Incredible Work of Breathing". Without test results what does that really mean. From my experience on three different CCR's (Kiss Classic, Inspiration, Meg) I have difficulty noting much of a difference in WOB except for the obvious hydrostatic differences between FMCL and BMCL.

John
 
I don't think the poster in #4 did either as he's requesting more detailed information on Wayne's report.

Correct - I should have directed that question to the OP. Apologies for the lack of clarity! I have no comment to make on the debate re advertising/full disclosure or whatever so count me out of that one and meanwhile chalk me up for:

Plus 1 on the photos and teardown.

+2!!!
 
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For example you say it has "Incredible Work of Breathing". Without test results what does that really mean. From my experience on three different CCR's (Kiss Classic, Inspiration, Meg) I have difficulty noting much of a difference in WOB except for the obvious hydrostatic differences between FMCL and BMCL.

John
+1 on the above, John
I dive a rEvo & with the stock DSV I thought the WOB was terrific. Then I decided to get a Shrimp BOV and noticed no WOB difference (others have said the WOB gets worse with a BOV). So really, what does "Incredible Work of Breathing" mean? My gut tells me it's just a subjective feeling.

Franco
 
So really, what does "Incredible Work of Breathing" mean? My gut tells me it's just a subjective feeling.

Franco

I suspect it is like most other human sensed item in that different people have different levels of awareness. Maybe my awareness of differences in WOB is low and it takes a big difference between numerically tested results for me to be able to tell the difference. Maybe other people have a finer ability to tell differences at lower differences between numerical test results.

Eitherway, if someone has only used one CCR or several CCR's but for short durations their opinion of WOB differences would have much less credibility with me then someone whom has a fair number of hours on several CCR's.

John
 
I suspect it is like most other human sensed item in that different people have different levels of awareness. Maybe my awareness of differences in WOB is low and it takes a big difference between numerically tested results for me to be able to tell the difference. Maybe other people have a finer ability to tell differences at lower differences between numerical test results.

Eitherway, if someone has only used one CCR or several CCR's but for short durations their opinion of WOB differences would have much less credibility with me then someone whom has a fair number of hours on several CCR's.

John

It's probably related to the strength of your lungs. If you are very fit they will all seem the same, same as a 4km run and a 5km run feel much the same. If your lungs are not so strong you may be more able to detect a difference, same as for an unfit person after 4km the 5th km may be a killer.

I guess if you end up in the crap at depth you may start to notice that WOB more.
 
It's probably related to the strength of your lungs. If you are very fit they will all seem the same, same as a 4km run and a 5km run feel much the same. If your lungs are not so strong you may be more able to detect a difference, same as for an unfit person after 4km the 5th km may be a killer.

I guess if you end up in the crap at depth you may start to notice that WOB more.

Plausible arguement that is easy for me to relate too.
 
I actually tripped across this forum a little while back and forgot about it and was surfing the web the other day, i found it again. When scrolling through I saw a section on the Hollis Prism 2. My intent was to let people know that these units are finally out and in the field. I purposely did not link to my site because I did not want it to look like a sales pitch. I did not believe I was hiding anything (look at my name), as you can see, yes I own a dive shop and yes I am an Instructor (OC Trimix). Sorry that I did not formally introduce myself first. As far as rebreather experience, I have hours on Drager Dolphin, Kiss Classic, rEvo and now Hollis Prism. Any quiet time underwater is great!

As far as the Prism2 goes, I felt that the unit is well made and the Assembly process was very simple. The unit come with an H-plate which is the structure that everything attaches too. The electronics (solenoid) are sealed and you have access to the battery compartment on the top of the unit. Unit also comes with an Alum. BP (I switched mine to SS BP) and a wing. Both of wing are easy to attach and you can easily attach any plate or wing you want to it. As I stated in original post, it has the Shearwater Computer as well. I saw the old Prism and if you had three of them side by side the parts were not interchangeable. So, to see Hollis take it over and have injection molding and improve the whole unit is a great thing. This unit has a radial scrubber and they advertise a 4hr duration. The scrubber canister is clear and is held on by 3 latches. Some people are a little freaked out by the rain forest you can see because of the clear canister. This happens with every rebreather so no big deal to me and you can actually see, without taking it apart, the amount of liquid that is in there (hopefully not a lot). The 3 sensors plug in underneath the head of the unit on the top of the scrubber. Cells are easy to access and faces appear to be dry after a dive. There is room if you did want to add more for an independent monitoring or if something else comes out down the road. This is the first over the shoulder counter-lung rebreather that I have dove/owned. So yes, the work of breathing great due to design. Counter lungs are well made and the assembly of DSV & loop is easy and simple. I am starting to get use to the clutter (counter-lungs) up front now that I have about 30hrs on the unit. Aside from changing to a SS BP, I change some hoses to Miflex and streamlined the lengths as well. I put the 3L steel tanks on and was not happy with the tank straps (would loosen up) so I switched to the smaller DiveRite ones. I am getting a couple of items from Hollis to test out, when i get them and do the testing, I will elaborate then. Our shop does not currently offer an over the shoulder counter-lung rebreather so now we have a quality option for our customers that want that design.

Sorry to take so long to respond but I have been teaching since Friday and just got to checking out this thread. I hope this answers a lot of your questions.
 
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