Dry Hypoxia Training for Rebreather Divers

[anarchista]

Now then:, if anyone wishes to dicuss the subject articulated by title of the thread, let's feel free. If we want to discuss arcane Russian scientific papers, let's start a thread and see where it goes, and I am sure will all learn something. If we want to have a meta-discussion "on the discussion" it will be deleted without comment or any additional coaching on the purpose of the forum, which is rebreather diving, and not how the internet social structure evolves. I am absolutely certain that there are other forums dedicated to that exact subject.

We have to choose from:
1 method is great
2 It is an excellent course
3 I pay the deposit
4 Book time for me.

Prohibited are questions about: the impact of effort, ppN2 and in other areas, where it is not known whether it is possible to recognize the early hypoxia symptoms.

If your course work in such areas, it is very valuable and necessary.

greet rc

 

[Simon Mitchell]

Saying things such as "so another threat, eh?" is, well.... not very nice.

Dave,

The fact it was said in relation to a threat of moderation by you during a debate between you and another forum member tells you everything you need to know about the advisability of moderating debates in which you are one of the prinicpal protagonists.

Fair?

No. My advice: don't moderate your own debates.

Simon M

 

[Packhorse]

No. My advice: don't moderate your own debates.

Simon M

+1

Seen that happen to many times on various forums and it's never pretty.

 

[silentbob]

I've nothing further to say on this matter, I think Simon has summed it all up rather well.

If your overweening moderating style continues Dave (please note that is a criticism of something you are doing not an attack on you) it will stifle thread content. If you are short of mods ask someone to help I'm sure there are plenty of folk on this forum who would be glad to.

 

[Dave Sutton]

We have to choose from:
1 method is great
2 It is an excellent course
3 I pay the deposit
4 Book time for me.

Prohibited are questions about: the impact of effort, ppN2 and in other areas, where it is not known whether it is possible to recognize the early hypoxia symptoms.

If your course work in such areas, it is very valuable and necessary.

greet rc

I'm still not certain what questions you are asking, but rest assured nothing is "prohibited", so... ?

BTW, I am not selling any course, merely pointing out that it is a routine event for many people to do this.




Readers might note that three posts which were all meta-discussions without subject content have been deleted. Really guys... stay on topic.



Dave


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[silentbob]

No Dave they were criticisms of your heavy handed style. They were valid and you are merely becoming vindictive in your moderating.

 

[Packhorse]

Come on Dave.
This is exactly why people shouldn't moderate their own threads!

Very disappointed. I really thought CCRX was better than that.

 

[Dave Sutton]

Gentlemen:

Tut Tut...

There has been NO MODERATION here in this thread EVER other than to delete three posts just now that CLEARLY are not relevent to the subject.

Again, to be clear: There has been NO MODERATION, meaning edited posts, deleted posts, etc.... get it? In fact... I think there has been a total of ONE edited post and THREE deleted posts in the entire history of CCRx... which is a record of some sort.

With that said:

Gentlemen: Please move back to the subject.


Dave


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[silentbob]

Gentlemen:

Tut Tut...

There has been NO MODERATION here in this thread EVER other than to delete three posts just now that CLEARLY are not relevent to the subject.

Again, to be clear: There has been NO MODERATION, meaning edited posts, deleted posts, etc.... get it? In fact... I think there has been a total of ONE edited post and THREE deleted posts in the entire history of CCRx... which is a record of some sort.

You removed three posts that were critical of your moderation of your own thread.

Also if you look back through the thread you will notice that you have edited your own posts to moderate your position. I would draw your attention to post #181 of Anarchista. He quotes you as saying those who do not toe the line will get a hammering. You edited your own post after the fact to try and seem more moderate.

I know you will delete this and no doubt my account as well. I cannot say I will be sorry if you do as your behavior is terrible. Behaving like this all you will end up with in this forum is an Orwellian record that serves only you.

 

[Dave Sutton]

Bob,

You're not listening... this is a DIVING forum, not a political debate. I removed three posts that had zero diving comment after informing all that meta-discussions on the discussion itself were not topics for the thread (or any other thread), and gave fair and friendly notice that further meta-discussion posts would be deleted. I think that's pretty fair?

And <sigh>: I've done everything in my power to goad you into understanding that we discuss DIVING here. Not people.

You also seem to miss the sense of humor with which I often post. You might consider that you are not receiving the friendly message that was intended.

I am going to close this thread, as it's outlived it's usefulness and only stands now as a way to facilitate further injury. I would have thought that a mere hint that we should move back to the subject would suffice.

As far as editing posts, the only edits I do of my own are to correct my (lousy) spelling. It's possible that Clare or someone else edited a few of mine... in which case my answer is "go ahead".. if it's all for the common shared good that we seek.

Should anyone have anything more to say about the subject of using dry hypoxia training as a continuing education topic for divers, please start a new thread.


Best,

Dave

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[Clare]

Dave had removed the posts temporarily and asked me for my thoughts. I have reinstated them.

Gentlemen, whilst it is correct that you can have a conflict in how to moderate a board, may I remind you that all who do so do it voluntarily to ensure we have a discussion forum.

It is hard when one is passionate to see others points of view. Moderators are not infallible but in this case Dave asked for help ahead of the deletions. He is committed to trying to keep threads on track and topic specific which is what a good moderator does. However, he realised he may not be able to see the wood for the trees and called other mods to the thread. Time differences meant I only just picked up on it.

I have to say this thread is going round in circles. But it's a discussion board so you have something to add then add it.

I will say, as the one who pays the bills here, that there have been too many posts in this thread making personal comments. No one wins an argument that way and it has no place here.

 

[anarchista]

I have to say this thread is going round in circles. But it's a discussion board big you have something to add then add it.

Is there are early signs of hypoxia: the high effort, when we are under the influence of high ppN2. Even if there are breathing pure inert gas.
I know it's science questions, physiology of diving.

Therefore, discussion goes in circles, with no concrete answers.

greet rc