Gas distribution blocks(think that is what they are called)

I have never been a fan of adding gadgets and gizmos to solve problems that don't really exist. As mentioned a properly weighted system requires very little gas in the wing. I use my leanest non helium bailout gas for suit inflation and squirt a little bit of dil in the wing for minor wing adjustments.
More hardware = more failure points
 
wedivebc said:
I have never been a fan of adding gadgets and gizmos to solve problems that don't really exist. As mentioned a properly weighted system requires very little gas in the wing. I use my leanest non helium bailout gas for suit inflation and squirt a little bit of dil in the wing for minor wing adjustments.
More hardware = more failure points
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I'm with Dave on this one. One less reg to service annually and one less tank to VIP and hydro. Mind you I run my suit for buoyancy control (keeps my feet warm) and rarely touch my wing, may not work as well for someone who adjusts his/her buoyancy using the wing. Even with minimal weight, if you do a long multilevel dive, say spend a couple hours inside a wreck, changing decks multiple times, numerous adjustments to one's buoyancy are required, all those little adjustments add up quickly. Besides, Steve needs his dry suit to be as figure hugging as possible so he can follow me through all the tight passageways I find inside the wrecks!!! :wiggle:
 
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Well we can't all be 5' and 110 lbs soaking wet. Your the only person i know tha tcan turn sideways in the hallways of wrecks. And not touch, haha.

I'm mainly just in a tinkering mood. I have no issues carrying the extra tanks, think i am just going to try a couple of different thoughts out on this one.



Steve

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Aaen said:
Your the only person i know tha tcan turn sideways in the hallways of wrecks. And not touch, haha.
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You're the only person I know who has mastered the art of swimming perpendicular down a hallway because your shoulders are wider than hallway.
 
Its only slightly off kilter. Must be from carrying all the tanks on the left side, gives me an advantage over sidemount. Hehe
 
Dave Sutton said:
Why not just weight yourself correctly and use neither the suit nor the wings? Why not just keep the suit volume compensated with a suit bottle and never add air to the wings? :confused:

It's not as if you are changing buouyancy a lot during a dive as compared to dumping 10 KG of open circuit gas overboard on a deep OC dive. If you are adding wing-gas as a routine, you likely have too much lead on. Get rid of it, and forget that you even own the wings.

Dove all season, multiple deep dives, never added wing gas once. I have not more than a puff of air in the suit and all is well. I can do two back to back 70 meter dives from one 1 litre suit bottle...


I would never run both suit and wings from the same gas source. I do have a QD on every one of my bailout bottles that can plug into either though.


Dave

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So what happens with your bailout? They are neutral ish when full and you send them up when they get floaty?
 
Yeah it works really well. You can shed them and send em up the line. Although difficult to do, i believe you can with the deeper bottles(>50% helium), been awhile since i did it with a full one though might have been more helium.

To be honest though if it hits the fan that bad and i am struggling, the tank is just going to get tossed away versus dealing with a tank and wasting time.
 
wedivebc said:
Thats how we do it. It even helps to make the lift bag more stable at the surface.
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You still need to make yourself negative to offset the bottles while empty or close to or add weights to the bottle.i am not sure how sending to the surface helps the positive bouyancy of the bottles when you need every lungfull in a bailout situation.
 
It is not sending the positive bailouts to the surface you are thinking about it wrong or we didn't explain right. Probably the later i am guessing.

What we do is if we need to bailout the empty is sent up the line. I weight myself to be slightly negative with one empty(3-500psi) bailout, then i know if shit hits the fan i can still stay down no matter what. This also allows me to put tanks on and off without having to think about adding weight etc. sure it gets a bit heavy when you have multiple tanks, but taking that additional weight off, is not a good idea in my opinion. If you have to use the bailouts best of luck staying down, each al80 is what 2-3 lbs positive when empty, that stack up rather fast if using multiple bailouts. So basically we send empty bailouts to the surface on a line, and continue to stay on the line with no buoyancy issues.

Hope that is clearer.

Steve

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