Wet Dream

**PeterN** · October 27th, 2012, 06:31 PM

A better video from the summer.

Wet Dream 2012 on Vimeo

Peter

**Paul Haynes** · October 27th, 2012, 09:44 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by PeterN)

A better video from the summer.

Wet Dream 2012 on Vimeo

Peter

Stunning Peter - much envy

Rgds Paul

**PeterN** · October 27th, 2012, 10:07 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Paul Haynes)

Stunning Peter - much envy

Rgds Paul

Cheers Paul.

You can't see it, but you should be pleased to know that my gag strap is my constant companion.

Peter

silentbob · October 28th, 2012, 01:37 AM

Very nice indeed.

What is the cause of the "scalloping" in the rock? Is it scouring from particles in the water?

I am hoping to spend a year on Vancouver Island in the near future. Looks like a beautiful spot.

**PeterN** · October 28th, 2012, 02:02 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by silentbob)

Very nice indeed.

What is the cause of the "scalloping" in the rock? Is it scouring from particles in the water?

I am hoping to spend a year on Vancouver Island in the near future. Looks like a beautiful spot.

The "scalloping" is a standard feature in caves. In a dry cave one can determine the direction of the water flow by observing which side is steeper, that is the side from which the water flows. Large scallops are said to be caused by slower flowing water and smaller by high flow. This cave is likley to have very high flow in the winter months. It is not uncommon to to have two inches or more of rain in this area in a day.

Look me up if you are comming up here. I would be pleased to show you around.

Peter

silentbob · October 28th, 2012, 02:20 AM

Good to know. And thanks for the offer, I will be sure to take you up on that!

Osiris · October 28th, 2012, 11:55 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by PeterN)

The "scalloping" is a standard feature in caves. In a dry cave one can determine the direction of the water flow by observing which side is steeper, that is the side from which the water flows. Large scallops are said to be caused by slower flowing water and smaller by high flow. This cave is likley to have very high flow in the winter months. It is not uncommon to to have two inches or more of rain in this area in a day.

Look me up if you are comming up here. I would be pleased to show you around.

Peter

Am I right in the belief that the boulders around the entrance were pushed there by the flow and the skip effect of these boulders in a high flow has caused the scalloping? The phenomenon is very well featured in that cave system - it looks like railway tracks.

Great video and awesome exploration - looks like you guys have a few more adventures yet in that system!

**PeterN** · October 29th, 2012, 12:00 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Osiris)

Am I right in the belief that the boulders around the entrance were pushed there by the flow and the skip effect of these boulders in a high flow has caused the scalloping? The phenomenon is very well featured in that cave system - it looks like railway tracks.

Great video and awesome exploration - looks like you guys have a few more adventures yet in that system!

I expect you are correct as to how the boulders got around the entrance.

Not so sure about the cause of scalloping however. There are marks in any active cave from crashing rocks.

I am inclined to think that the scallops are formed by water. Sure there is particulate matter, and rocks, but just the mildly acidic water over time is what forms caves.

Water and time, a lot of time.

Peter

Dave Sutton · October 29th, 2012, 03:17 AM

Beautiful stuff, Peter. Jitka wants to pack our cave gear!

Very interesting formations, some world class stuff.

We don't usually think of that area first when we think of cave diving. Water temperatures? Interesting doing cave work with dry gloves.

Best,

Dave

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**PeterN** · October 29th, 2012, 04:16 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton)

Beautiful stuff, Peter. Jitka wants to pack our cave gear!

Very interesting formations, some world class stuff.

We don't usually think of that area first when we think of cave diving. Water temperatures? Interesting doing cave work with dry gloves.

Best,

Dave

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The water in this cave is the warmest of any I have been in up here. 50 F. Usually the temp is in the low 40's.

We have over two thousand caves surveyed on the island. Many are large and properly decorated with all sorts of spelothems.

I am more of a caver than a diver but have poking about in sumps since 1988.

Although we have some significant water filled features, most of our dives are in small sumps that require a huge amount of effort to get to.

This one is the exception. Although you would not know it from all the grunting and moaning the real cave divers did, it is the easiest and shortest aproach of any cave dive here.

Sadly it is closed for most of the year as the rageing water of the river it is under prevents entry exept in late summer.

Peter

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silentbob New Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 88 Thanks: 27 Thanked 14 Times in 3 Posts	Very nice indeed. What is the cause of the "scalloping" in the rock? Is it scouring from particles in the water? I am hoping to spend a year on Vancouver Island in the near future. Looks like a beautiful spot.
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PeterN Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 319 Thanks: 232 Thanked 49 Times in 22 Posts	Quote: (Originally Posted by silentbob) Very nice indeed. What is the cause of the "scalloping" in the rock? Is it scouring from particles in the water? I am hoping to spend a year on Vancouver Island in the near future. Looks like a beautiful spot. The "scalloping" is a standard feature in caves. In a dry cave one can determine the direction of the water flow by observing which side is steeper, that is the side from which the water flows. Large scallops are said to be caused by slower flowing water and smaller by high flow. This cave is likley to have very high flow in the winter months. It is not uncommon to to have two inches or more of rain in this area in a day. Look me up if you are comming up here. I would be pleased to show you around. Peter
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Osiris New Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Zealand Posts: 45 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: (Originally Posted by PeterN) The "scalloping" is a standard feature in caves. In a dry cave one can determine the direction of the water flow by observing which side is steeper, that is the side from which the water flows. Large scallops are said to be caused by slower flowing water and smaller by high flow. This cave is likley to have very high flow in the winter months. It is not uncommon to to have two inches or more of rain in this area in a day. Look me up if you are comming up here. I would be pleased to show you around. Peter Am I right in the belief that the boulders around the entrance were pushed there by the flow and the skip effect of these boulders in a high flow has caused the scalloping? The phenomenon is very well featured in that cave system - it looks like railway tracks. Great video and awesome exploration - looks like you guys have a few more adventures yet in that system!
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October 29th, 2012, 12:00 AM	#8 (permalink)
PeterN Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 319 Thanks: 232 Thanked 49 Times in 22 Posts	Quote: (Originally Posted by Osiris) Am I right in the belief that the boulders around the entrance were pushed there by the flow and the skip effect of these boulders in a high flow has caused the scalloping? The phenomenon is very well featured in that cave system - it looks like railway tracks. Great video and awesome exploration - looks like you guys have a few more adventures yet in that system! I expect you are correct as to how the boulders got around the entrance. Not so sure about the cause of scalloping however. There are marks in any active cave from crashing rocks. I am inclined to think that the scallops are formed by water. Sure there is particulate matter, and rocks, but just the mildly acidic water over time is what forms caves. Water and time, a lot of time. Peter
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October 29th, 2012, 03:17 AM	#9 (permalink)
Dave Sutton Banned Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Union Beach, New Jersey Posts: 1,281 Thanks: 73 Thanked 189 Times in 103 Posts	Beautiful stuff, Peter. Jitka wants to pack our cave gear! Very interesting formations, some world class stuff. We don't usually think of that area first when we think of cave diving. Water temperatures? Interesting doing cave work with dry gloves. Best, Dave .
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October 29th, 2012, 04:16 AM	#10 (permalink)
PeterN Supporting Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada Posts: 319 Thanks: 232 Thanked 49 Times in 22 Posts	Quote: (Originally Posted by Dave Sutton) Beautiful stuff, Peter. Jitka wants to pack our cave gear! Very interesting formations, some world class stuff. We don't usually think of that area first when we think of cave diving. Water temperatures? Interesting doing cave work with dry gloves. Best, Dave . The water in this cave is the warmest of any I have been in up here. 50 F. Usually the temp is in the low 40's. We have over two thousand caves surveyed on the island. Many are large and properly decorated with all sorts of spelothems. I am more of a caver than a diver but have poking about in sumps since 1988. Although we have some significant water filled features, most of our dives are in small sumps that require a huge amount of effort to get to. This one is the exception. Although you would not know it from all the grunting and moaning the real cave divers did, it is the easiest and shortest aproach of any cave dive here. Sadly it is closed for most of the year as the rageing water of the river it is under prevents entry exept in late summer. Peter
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