Long hose or no long hose in bailout cylinders? (cave/wreck) - Page 2

scubasavage · November 2nd, 2012, 04:06 PM

That was a very common system before people started using bov's.

You bail out to your own cylinders first anyway, so getting a reg to you buddy isn't as much a priority. When getting a reg for yourself, speed is a bigger priority.

Paul S · November 2nd, 2012, 04:32 PM

Granted, but if handing off cylinders is ever on the menu then you've got a similar problem. Not at speed but still tricky.

I'm only asking because I dive sidemount OC and have my left reg in a similar fashion but couldn't make it work once I put a breathing loop on. I was going to reverse the feed on the reg, have it come in front of my shoulder to my neck and shorten the hose.

scubasavage · November 2nd, 2012, 04:48 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Paul S)

Granted, but if handing off cylinders is ever on the menu then you've got a similar problem. Not at speed but still tricky.

I'm only asking because I dive sidemount OC and have my left reg in a similar fashion but couldn't make it work once I put a breathing loop on. I was going to reverse the feed on the reg, have it come in front of my shoulder to my neck and shorten the hose.

The doner just has to detach the reg from their necklace to hand off the clyinder. Depending on how you have your necklace set up, it shouldn't mean you having to take the loop out of your mouth. Some just slip off and others break will pulled.

Paul S · November 2nd, 2012, 06:09 PM

Quote: (Originally Posted by scubasavage)

The doner just has to detach the reg from their necklace to hand off the clyinder. Depending on how you have your necklace set up, it shouldn't mean you having to take the loop out of your mouth. Some just slip off and others break will pulled.

It was more the hose round the back of the head and under the loop that concerned me. You can no longer take it over your head. It would need to be unthreaded and regs are awkward shapes and catch on things.

I'll have to try it. Maybe it's not as awkward as I imagine.

robinfante · November 2nd, 2012, 09:14 PM

long hose on bailout (bov plugged into said bailout.)

DSix36 · November 2nd, 2012, 09:40 PM

I use a 5' hose on my left bottom tank with it bungeed under my chin. All other tanks have a standard 40" hose.

Dougyfresh · November 5th, 2012, 01:16 AM

I use a 5' hose on my deep bailout for both wreck and cave. I like to have some extra options with the 5' hose. And it's more comfortable if you have to bailout to it.

Karlos · November 5th, 2012, 08:09 AM

I use between 1.5 & 2 (depends what hose I have on what reg) all bungeed to cylinder.

Logic is that in a kerfuffle I will always have enough hose for me if it gets caught anywhere en route. Also better to pass off to buddy as reg and then pass stage over.

I think the OP question is two fold as it with regards necklacing the 2nd stage in lieu of a BOV, in these circumstances I would not want a long hose as I would not hog loop it (due to the loop) but the BOV is the best option.

Karl

Engelen D · November 5th, 2012, 08:28 AM

Can't you fold the hose under a bungee on the stage AND put the reg on a necklace?

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Robert · November 5th, 2012, 08:49 AM

Quote: (Originally Posted by Engelen D)

Can't you fold the hose under a bungee on the stage AND put the reg on a necklace?

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That's what I do for the bottom gas (or right tank if I'm in a cave with 2 or more bottom bailouts),

Thanks,
Robert

November 2nd, 2012, 04:06 PM	#11
scubasavage New Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Donegal, Ireland Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	That was a very common system before people started using bov's. You bail out to your own cylinders first anyway, so getting a reg to you buddy isn't as much a priority. When getting a reg for yourself, speed is a bigger priority.
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November 2nd, 2012, 04:32 PM	#12 (permalink)
Paul S New Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: UK, Twickenham Posts: 53 Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Granted, but if handing off cylinders is ever on the menu then you've got a similar problem. Not at speed but still tricky. I'm only asking because I dive sidemount OC and have my left reg in a similar fashion but couldn't make it work once I put a breathing loop on. I was going to reverse the feed on the reg, have it come in front of my shoulder to my neck and shorten the hose.
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November 2nd, 2012, 04:48 PM	#13 (permalink)
scubasavage New Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Donegal, Ireland Posts: 15 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	Quote: (Originally Posted by Paul S) Granted, but if handing off cylinders is ever on the menu then you've got a similar problem. Not at speed but still tricky. I'm only asking because I dive sidemount OC and have my left reg in a similar fashion but couldn't make it work once I put a breathing loop on. I was going to reverse the feed on the reg, have it come in front of my shoulder to my neck and shorten the hose. The doner just has to detach the reg from their necklace to hand off the clyinder. Depending on how you have your necklace set up, it shouldn't mean you having to take the loop out of your mouth. Some just slip off and others break will pulled.
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November 2nd, 2012, 06:09 PM	#14 (permalink)
Paul S New Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: UK, Twickenham Posts: 53 Thanks: 10 Thanked 3 Times in 3 Posts	Quote: (Originally Posted by scubasavage) The doner just has to detach the reg from their necklace to hand off the clyinder. Depending on how you have your necklace set up, it shouldn't mean you having to take the loop out of your mouth. Some just slip off and others break will pulled. It was more the hose round the back of the head and under the loop that concerned me. You can no longer take it over your head. It would need to be unthreaded and regs are awkward shapes and catch on things. I'll have to try it. Maybe it's not as awkward as I imagine.
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November 2nd, 2012, 09:14 PM	#15 (permalink)
robinfante New Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: nj Posts: 9 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	long hose on bailout (bov plugged into said bailout.)
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November 2nd, 2012, 09:40 PM	#16 (permalink)
DSix36 anti-hammerhead Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Florida Posts: 323 Thanks: 21 Thanked 60 Times in 39 Posts	I use a 5' hose on my left bottom tank with it bungeed under my chin. All other tanks have a standard 40" hose.
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November 5th, 2012, 01:16 AM	#17 (permalink)
Dougyfresh New Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: New York Posts: 28 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts	I use a 5' hose on my deep bailout for both wreck and cave. I like to have some extra options with the 5' hose. And it's more comfortable if you have to bailout to it.
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November 5th, 2012, 08:09 AM	#18 (permalink)
Karlos New Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Kent, UK Posts: 22 Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts	I use between 1.5 & 2 (depends what hose I have on what reg) all bungeed to cylinder. Logic is that in a kerfuffle I will always have enough hose for me if it gets caught anywhere en route. Also better to pass off to buddy as reg and then pass stage over. I think the OP question is two fold as it with regards necklacing the 2nd stage in lieu of a BOV, in these circumstances I would not want a long hose as I would not hog loop it (due to the loop) but the BOV is the best option. Karl
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November 5th, 2012, 08:28 AM	#19 (permalink)
Engelen D New Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Belgium Posts: 141 Thanks: 27 Thanked 21 Times in 15 Posts	Can't you fold the hose under a bungee on the stage AND put the reg on a necklace? Sent from my rEvodream using Tapatalk
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November 5th, 2012, 08:49 AM	#20 (permalink)
Robert New Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 24 Thanks: 23 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post	Quote: (Originally Posted by Engelen D) Can't you fold the hose under a bungee on the stage AND put the reg on a necklace? Sent from my rEvodream using Tapatalk That's what I do for the bottom gas (or right tank if I'm in a cave with 2 or more bottom bailouts), Thanks, Robert
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