Cant find diving lights...

[erikradstrom]

You should try the 35W HID from Agir Andreas. Its a great light.

[SoggyBottoms]

led's still aren't there for green water
if you want a good sea torch for uk type water (shitty/silty/snotty) then HID seems to still be the way forward.
was diving a puddle today (sea was closed) with a guy had MB-Sub cave and it was seriously outclassed by even a 21w HID
check out light monkey if you want a decent torch


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[Ville]

One vote more for Scubamafia XM3.

There are some Scumafias lights in action: vimeo.com/53347589 (great video, I think!)

[gianaameri]

Quote: (Originally Posted by andrestamla)

Hello


I am planning to buy a dive light, any recomendations here in cold baltic muddy whaters have tryed many products from light-for-me. Nothing works.. Due to the narrow beam. Can anyone suggest something whide beamed or home builds?

I cave dive and find myself in different visibilty conditions several times on the same dive.

What I found works for me is 6 18650 torches with 7 degrees beam each.

The combined lumens is greater than a single Tek umbilical torch. The light output and color is good for a 3 hour dive, and in emergency they are good in excess of 6 hours.

The beam is the sum total of six 7 degree beams, partly overlapping, which as a whole makes a wide, but yet penetrating beam.

You have 6 totally independent lights, small, no cable, no big battery canister.

It may not be fashionable because it goes against the trend and is not DIR, but it works and is dependable (no reed switches or buttons to fail either).

The downside in Open Water is that you need some kind of helmet to hold them and you'll be ridiculed, but for night diving or low-vis diving I would not hesitate to use it over any more fashionable umbilical torch.

...and each torch costs GBP. 55 and 4 would be plenty enough (6 is over-kill, but they fit on the helmet, so why not!).

This is my experience having tried various systems in all sorts of murky waters.

[anarchista]

GRALMARINE LIGHTS - HLBDIVE plongée technique loisir souterraine
Good standard and quality. K Starnawski use of their products, other cave divers extremely.

greet rc

[gianaameri]

Quote: (Originally Posted by gianaameri)

I cave dive and find myself in different visibilty conditions several times on the same dive.

What I found works for me is 6 18650 torches with 7 degrees beam each.

The combined lumens is greater than a single Tek umbilical torch. The light output and color is good for a 3 hour dive, and in emergency they are good in excess of 6 hours.

The beam is the sum total of six 7 degree beams, partly overlapping, which as a whole makes a wide, but yet penetrating beam.

You have 6 totally independent lights, small, no cable, no big battery canister.

It may not be fashionable because it goes against the trend and is not DIR, but it works and is dependable (no reed switches or buttons to fail either).

The downside in Open Water is that you need some kind of helmet to hold them and you'll be ridiculed, but for night diving or low-vis diving I would not hesitate to use it over any more fashionable umbilical torch.

...and each torch costs GBP. 55 and 4 would be plenty enough (6 is over-kill, but they fit on the helmet, so why not!).

This is my experience having tried various systems in all sorts of murky waters.

Here is what I mean (not trendy/fashionable, but functional for all diving; key is to angle the lights slightly outwards to avoid glare/backscatter):

[Remco]

5000 lumen link : Producten - Kabellampen - Kabellamp KL1256 LED5000 | Metalsub, Duiklampen en Quick Release systemen

[jcook]

Underwater Light Dude LD-26, the thing is just awesome for the amount of light it puts out. No hot spot and a long burn time.

Underwater Light Dude

[PeterN]

Quote: (Originally Posted by gianaameri)

I cave dive and find myself in different visibilty conditions several times on the same dive.

What I found works for me is 6 18650 torches with 7 degrees beam each.

The combined lumens is greater than a single Tek umbilical torch. The light output and color is good for a 3 hour dive, and in emergency they are good in excess of 6 hours.

The beam is the sum total of six 7 degree beams, partly overlapping, which as a whole makes a wide, but yet penetrating beam.

You have 6 totally independent lights, small, no cable, no big battery canister.

It may not be fashionable because it goes against the trend and is not DIR, but it works and is dependable (no reed switches or buttons to fail either).

The downside in Open Water is that you need some kind of helmet to hold them and you'll be ridiculed, but for night diving or low-vis diving I would not hesitate to use it over any more fashionable umbilical torch.

...and each torch costs GBP. 55 and 4 would be plenty enough (6 is over-kill, but they fit on the helmet, so why not!).

This is my experience having tried various systems in all sorts of murky waters.

Gian is a much more expierienced caver diver than I, but I must comment that my experience is different than his.

As I am more of a sump diver than big cave diver, helmet lights are a matter of course for me. What I find is that when in poor vis conditions is that the back scatter from helmet lights is horendous. Last summer after wiggling thru a constsriction I stirred things up and was blinded by back scatter untill I un mounted a helmet light and held it out to arms length.

When diving in our typical murcky ocean waters here I have found that my Light Monkey 21 watt LED is not nearly as good as the Light Monkey HID,same wattage, that my friend has. It seems the HID cuts the murk better.

Peter

[gianaameri]

Quote: (Originally Posted by PeterN)

Gian is a much more expierienced caver diver than I, but I must comment that my experience is different than his.

As I am more of a sump diver than big cave diver, helmet lights are a matter of course for me. What I find is that when in poor vis conditions is that the back scatter from helmet lights is horendous. Last summer after wiggling thru a constsriction I stirred things up and was blinded by back scatter untill I un mounted a helmet light and held it out to arms length.

When diving in our typical murcky ocean waters here I have found that my Light Monkey 21 watt LED is not nearly as good as the Light Monkey HID,same wattage, that my friend has. It seems the HID cuts the murk better.

Peter

No, no, no... I am not an "expert" at anything, but what you say is true if the helmet lights are pointed forward. The brighter they are, if pointed forward, the worse it is.

They have to be angled outward, pointing slightly outward.

Any light pointed forward will cause backscatter (and if you put them near your mask and parallel to your line of sight it will be horrendous in any visibility).

What I do is similar to what you did when you removed the helmet. All you need though is to point the lights on the helmet outward I'd say 5 degrees.

The helmet is already angled or formed to do that naturally, if you use bungee to secure the forward part of the light, and rigid nylon tie straps to secure the rear, and you pull the tie straps a bit tight (no need to use max. force).

In no vis., you still get no vis. though... don't expect to penetrate silt with any light.